And then he throws a web of his own over her to then copulate with her. It's the more spacious part of the car. There are many things that are out there in the ether that aren't officially brought to our attention. Open in Who Shared Wrong byline? They're the former co-hosts, creators and managing editors of WNYC's Nancy. They kissed. I've looked at literally hundreds if not thousands of UFO cases because people send me them all the time, and there's always new ones coming up. Within a couple of months of that visit, Shalabh bought Zarna an emerald-green ring. Yeah. Today's program, setting the record straight, stories of people who feel very strongly that they have to clarify what's true and what's false about something very important to them. I have nowhere to go. So then I ask him, well, where are we going? Julia, who's seven, asks his name and how old he is. No, no one said that. And a surprising number said yes. It's not demonstrating any advanced maneuvering or anything. They've had many different names. And what you see are these very clear triangles. It can feel like a little miracle. And you're not alone. As a scientist put it when they explained it to me, it's bondage. People who put together today's show include Elna Baker, Chris Benderev, Phia Bennin, Zoe Chace, Sean Cole, Emmanuel Dzotsi, Valerie Kipnis, Seth Lind, Katherine Rae Mondo, Alaa Mostafa, Stowe Nelson, Nadia Reiman, Ryan Rumery, Frances Swanson, Christopher Swetala, Lilly Sullivan, Nancy Updike, Matt Tierney, and Julie Whitaker. You know what is a way to live? One of our producers here, Aviva DeKornfeld, is skeptical about these claims, and also a little envious. Sometimes she throws silk at the danger to try to escape. He wrote to me of bad news. She accidentally wrote his phone number down wrong, and they still ended up together. It was real. I don't know why he was so curious, but he was. Something went wrong. . And instead, there's some poor single person on Hinge, desperately looking through the profiles, who'd be perfect for you. Zarna says this is when I'm landing in New York from Cleveland. Yeah. And Kate, their mother, went, oh my god, yes. Two weeks later, the director told her that he loved her. They especially love to make their cobwebs between two objects. We're still together today, and it's, what, 30-something years later. He will tell my kids, oh, you should go fall in love. And again, bites are very rare. I asked. Answer, no. Producer, Deputy Managing Editor. Look, it very well could have been. And you never wonder more about what happened or how they brought it home or any of that? Transcripts are generated using a combination of speech recognition software and human transcribers, and may contain errors. Thanks to my boss, Ira Glass. When we met, from that point on, all the way to the apartment we couldn't keep our hands off of each other. There's no way that this is the guy I'm supposed to be meeting. Their first date was at a French restaurant. The day I met Ilya, he asked for my number right away. He informed me at the airport that he had nowhere to go while in America. He was just a joy to be around. There isn't an alternative, whereas I think most of life is somewhere in the mushy middle. See all Twitter Feed Search @tobinlow 9,591 followers, 5 tweets No recent tweets for Tobin Low. I don't know why it has to be this way, but I also know it won't be like this forever. They got married a couple of years ago. Well, to be honest, I thought his friend was cuter. Perhaps being bit on the genitals sends the venom going into your body in a faster or stronger way than, say, if you were bit on a callus on your foot. Or what is happening right now? They were married a little over a year after he sent her the message that made her so mad. Because, like Cal, I didn't trust my heart. If you had it, everything else would fall into place. And I imagine they force each other to see the world a little differently. And actually, they are still together today. There will always be blurry photos of things in the sky, probably more now that everyone has a cell phone with them all the time. Everyone in my life is exhausted by my endless romantic dithering. And I was like, this isn't going to have a third. He likes them. Phia Bennin Editor at This American Life Brooklyn, New York, United States 934 followers 500+ connections Join to view profile This American Life Vassar College Activity I'm looking. If you are able, we strongly encourage you to listen to the audio, which includes emotion and emphasis that's not on the page. I'm Tobin Low. And I know that the female, after mating, kills the male and eats him. Which is funny, I'm used to couples disagreeing about why they broke up-- who said what, and who's to blame. Here's a theory as to why. Sometimes there's a glitch, and they send two drivers. And the fact that basically no scientists seem interested in this at all and prefer to dwell on, say, detailed questions of how solar systems form, it tells you something. Mick runs a website called Metabunk, where he and others try to really run these things down. Shalabh says he can get a flight that arrives around the same time. This is what has caused all the problems in the world-- everybody falling in love. This is my last oat to sow. Privacy Policy, Questions or trouble with this site? Nancy: The Duo Who Brought Queer Storytelling to the My mom, 18. I put out a call to see how many people out there had really felt this thing I assumed was reserved for rom-coms. We'll talk about the multisensor part in a later session. tale. Or one of my favorites, there was this photo of someone on a vacation took of these mysterious lights up in the sky over the water. Or I liked them, they didn't like me. This American Life. (SINGING) He said, tell it like it is. But she also worried about what it would be like for her kids to see the city so changed. I doubt anybody would take on that amount of seriousness at such a young age, because there's almost no fun in your classified. Today's show was produced by Aviva DeKornfeld. If you broke up, someone that loves you could be with you, and someone who loves your husband or your wife could be with them. And to get to the stinky stuff, you got to go through the bowl. The only thing left of it? No offense to the people who named that the shoe button spider back in the old days, but that is a very lame name. Sure. When she was in her late 20s, like I am, she was living in New York, like I do, and like me, feeling increasingly concerned she would never meet her life partner, and kept finding herself saying things like this. I'm always just stepping out into the sunshine. Stories like Liz's drive me insane, because I love them. I'm saying--. Samantha Irby is the author of Wow, No Thank You., as well as Meaty, We Are Never Meeting in Real Life., and New Year, Same Trash. Ilya's hand is shaky, as if he's trying to keep his phone hidden. But when you're 60% miserable, that's still too miserable. Who has it right? The instant I saw his face there, I thought, I'd like to be around to see that. I figured there must be data on that-- cell phone video, radar, computer records. Kelsey says the female eating the male, OK, this has happened, but very rarely. Well, and I could also say our life is proof that my romanticism has provided me with a very great career, a great family, good health, kids that are healthy. That's what happened. Zarna moved to the US on her own when she was 16, leaving behind her family in India and a likely arranged marriage. And if this were a movie, the camera would zoom out of Zarna's window at her house in Cleveland. What she had not planned on was that Shalabh would not stay at home like he promised. So it felt safe. Theyll both join the team as editors. Remember that app that went around a couple of years ago that took a picture of your face and showed you what you look like much older, added wrinkles, and gray hair? Yeah. He had heard that there were mines everywhere. What's that saying? Episode transcript here. Yeah, let me see who this guy is, and what is so special about a doctor guy. First, in the lobby of the building she was staying at, then on to a coffee shop. Full episode Transcript 786: It's a Game Show! I worked on one of those giant particle accelerators. I took the chance, and believe me, not everyone gets it on the first time. But this time, other US Navy assets also observed unmanned aerial systems nearby. He comes up with the best jokes and the best ideas, and he makes me laugh. Act 2, Oh, What a Hangled Web We Weave. Matt Ortile is the author of The Groom Will Keep His Name. She had an inbox of hundreds of messages from other suitors who are just as qualified for the position of husband. No. He would then inform the others. His mom and sister returned back to Warsaw while he and his dad continued to Mariupol. The lucky thing for Paul is that because he asked for directions when the guy first got in the car, the guy doesn't really notice that Paul doesn't have the app open or the GPS open. It's there, and then it's gone. During the shows five seasons, it was named as one of the best podcasts of the year by Time Magazine, The Guardian, and Entertainment Weekly. But at the end, I'd think, nope, didn't feel it. I mean, god, I'm just-- I'm like, everybody break up! Please check the corresponding audio before quoting in print. I can't even describe it to you. You look at the person and you feel that, against all odds, you're always going to-- that's the one for you. It can take time. Because in that case, he just had a totally normal night. Bring it out of the shadows. You know what? I mean, yeah, it's true. But it's a topic that's impossible to end because there's always going to be unidentified flying objects. But I've never known a couple who disagrees about the thing that brought them together. Like, obviously, we love each other. I was born in Mariupol. I really don't want to go back to school. You're saying it sort of like, matter of fact. I was once in a 10-year relationship where the question of is this what I really want started to creep in around year four. And I told him that I was moving to New York for my first job, and because I thought I would have a higher likelihood of meeting an Indian guy in New York than in Cleveland. If you are able, we strongly encourage you to listen to the audio, which includes emotion and emphasis that's not on the page. David Kestenbaum is our program's senior editor. Ilya covered his face with his Angry Birds t-shirt. When I picture walking out of a film, when I visualize walking out of a film in my mind, I am always walking out into the sunlight. He didn't know if his grandma was alive or not. This next story is the reverse. So I ran Kelsey's idea by them. Scott Bray showed another video, which he said was more typical. Megan and Sybil Neuringer were together up through age eight. By Tobin Low, Valerie Kipnis, Lilly Sullivan, David Kestenbaum Verified . This American Life + Freelance . We set out to find them. Were incredibly excited. And a few days later, they went on their first date at a rodeo. Valerie Kipnis is one of the producers of our show. 13 people weighed in. Particularly maddening are conversations I've had with people I know about this. I make a series of comics about Spider, called "Spider Cat Comics." Bray said there are several categories of what these things could be, airborne clutter, like a balloon, atmospheric phenomena, some weather thing. 786: It's a Game Show! - This American Life The universe really does seem to have a speed limit. He did not seem to want to say aliens. And the statistic that you saw, how many bites were on penises? He seemed to be getting used to Poland. And if you wouldn't mind going up to the screen and tell us what we're seeing, explain what we should be looking at in that first image. There's a task force, this one set up last November. At Reveal they also covered everything from racial discrimination in mortgage lending to the origins of the Pizzagate conspiracy theory and won a duPont-Columbia Award and a Peabody Award, among others. It wasn't just normal 3D, like when you see on a Marvel movie. We were saying goodbye at the elevator and had a hug and kiss. This one woman I talked to met her husband in the middle of the woods. It's all broken down, he said. You can support Normal Gossip directly bybuying merch or becoming a Friend or a Friend-of-Friend at supportnormalgossip.com. But today, every single person with a smartphone has a super powerful camera in their pocket. You want to see some? Now, if you're not familiar with LA, I mean, the place where I picked him up was in Franklin Village. But then I realized that if I were to do that, I would have a lot of explaining to do because he would have wanted to know, why did I let him in my car? Why does the world have to be like this? I asked him if he had any advice for other people about how to get there. You know what I mean? He's just comfortable giving him directions all the way to Glendale. They went on to work at the show State of the Re:Union, and later worked as a health reporter on NPR's Science Desk. Oh, so he was a little bit keeping tabs on your progress, too, then. Elizabeth's advice for me went something like this. Mick wanted that last one too, actually. 4 o'clock, I was meeting that guy. And then as he's getting out of the car, I did-- part of me, a tiny, tiny part of me, was thinking still, is this the guy? One theory is the one Kelsey lays out, that the male is trapping the female. They're going through them, trying to figure out what they are, as I hoped, working with all kinds of smart people. People who want to believe in aliens will say, look, we had a hearing. Producer, Deputy Managing Editor - This American Life - LinkedIn Zarna was not going to let him get in the way. Nearby. This American Life Hires Laura Starecheski and Tobin Low I love cats. I even would like to see some tax returns, and you know, what job prospects you have. I'm Tobin Low, sitting in for Ira Glass. That's something-- I've been talking about that video for well over a year now. So there really is only one way the record will ever get set straight, that we will get an answer to whether aliens are here on Earth. It's wild-looking. And so for six years, this was the big unmagical and uncalculatable question of my life. I have a lot of follow up questions. It was new. We got to 99.999954% of the speed of light. If they do quote someone, it's often this guy, Mick West. UFOs, by the way, have now been rebranded UAPs, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, I think so pilots won't be embarrassed to report sightings. My gosh. Then, he would then be like, hey, did you end up meeting that guy-- you know, the one you forwarded me? Tobin is the co-creator of the LGBTQ podcast Nancy, which recently concluded its award-winning run at WNYC Studios. He's trying to figure out the truth, to set things straight for himself. And if it was true that he had a majority of the things that I put on my list, I would keep giving it a shot. Not even two seconds later, as soon as I had that realization, his phone rings. It was so many. Because I feel like for anyone who has ever been single and wanted to find love-- and I'm talking about people that want lifelong partnership-- you have received advice from at least one of these two frustratingly opposed camps. Fantastic. And he gets in my car. Yes. She told me that last week, it was Ilya and his sister's birthdays. Oh, so I was very specific about that. He figured Ukrainians would keep on fighting. He's extremely funny. And I think those spiders definitely have power. But they're the ones in charge now. Think about it like you're at the movies. The Russians were the ones who destroyed the city. I've been there. I was just completely making it all up. Spiders do bondage. Because there was no real interest there in that way. That made it even more suspicious. Meghan got a call from Jeff the next morning while she was still lying in bed with her oat. It was something about the way he carried himself. I would choose head. And you're totally wrong. And the guy starts to direct him to the hookup spot, like, make a left up there, turn right at this corner. And he's going to take a different approach the next time around. But watching them each dig in their heels on their own point of view, it seems like together they balance each other out. But my mom, on the other hand, she had more specific advice. 528 episodes totalling 256 hours, 31 minutes. She was like, I don't know who is the bigger loser--. That's the chair of this House Intelligence subcommittee, Congressman Andre Carson, Democrat from Indiana. I know. But it was hard to explain to them what exactly was the relationship. So--. Live from Pemberley: Fire Island (with Tobin Low) - Acast And that's if we actually find them. Mike Gallagher, Republican from Wisconsin, asked a bunch of questions of Bray and also Undersecretary Moultrie. They did not have an easily explainable pattern. Before we end our show, I think it's only fair that I answer which camp I believe in-- math or magic. You know, I'd be bouncing with excitement to see him. And so finally, he sees this guy standing on a corner, and the guy beckons for him to pull over. He was a film director and asked her to see a movie, a 3D movie, by Jean-Luc Godard. And they just have one of those marriages. And why was I meeting this guy from Switzerland anyway? It was really passionate. Polite. And the person who leaked it has been vehemently insisting that there's actual pyramid-shaped craft flying around and that I'm completely wrong. No. And for the tiniest fraction of a second, something flits by. They now have a formalized system for, say, pilots to report things they see and currently, a database of 400 incidents. And they talked a lot about the process that they're going to set up. That's billions of cameras. I do remember that guy. From WBEZ Chicago, it's This American Life. So '90s. I mean, the seriousness-- a girl who is this much work even before she has met someone, can you imagine what she would be like into a serious relationship? His name was Shalabh. It's all good. --there's footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are. The footage is green because it's shot with night vision goggles. Now, there was something that needed explaining. Episode transcript here. It's all right. Email webmaster@journalism.berkeley.edu. But because it's classified, they can't talk about it. A camera artifact. It wasn't until hours later he found out his grandmother had survived. I could never tell if it was me or the situation that needed to change. This American Life is a weekly public radio show, heard by 2.2 million people on more than 500 stations. She also figured they should have accurate data about her. I have not seen the official data on that. You have to meet each other. Am I right, Tobin? Marie walked out of their apartment and kept walking in one direction until she couldn't go any farther. My side can't. Top American Life Employees Henry Liebman president. And leaving movies midway-- it became their thing, together. They're right. Shalabh, though-- sees the story totally differently. It was taken from inside. Tobin Low Editor at This American Life Oakland, California, United States. Because, as I said, I was mission-driven. The writer Marie Phillips has a very specific approach to this question. Nancy podcast finds its identity, and invites you to do the same He was giving me his freebies. And my dates were like, is this your brother? With Ira Glass and Lilly Sullivan, 184 episodes, 245 ratings & reviews. She loved him. And he explained he wasn't really feeling it with me, and that it wasn't going to work out. And I didn't mind being alone. He was a really delightful person. Translation, they have other data, radar or some advanced sensing, that who knows, maybe gives them a pretty good idea of what this is or what it isn't. Meghan sounds so certain, which makes me wonder if perhaps some people are just wired for certainty and I'm not one of them. Tobin Low - Editor - This American Life | LinkedIn Tobin Low Editor at This American Life Oakland, California, United States 290 followers 275 connections Join to view profile This. He had his own loneliness. There was going to be a congressional hearing on UFOs, the first in 50 years, which meant finally, the experts were going to weigh in, on the record, in front of Congress. So why am I telling you all this? Stay with us. Laura Starecheski (left) and Tobin Low (right). I think they are. He's still making room for his heart whenever it's ready to try again. Then this. Always wanted to be part of the union. Big parts of the city were destroyed. Turns out, lots of people here were trying to figure out this very thing in their own lives, which brings us to Act Two, "Crazy Stupid Love.". He told me he was nervous about filming outside because the soldiers didn't like it when people did that. She also used to report science stories. They'd been on the run for months, stayed at so many temporary places, and she felt no relief or comfort. He said I couldn't go over to his place. Check out what he does. So she found an online dating site for Indian singles, and decided to post an ad for herself. This American Life is an American weekly hour-long radio program produced by WBEZ and hosted by Ira Glass. Hey there, Tobin. He's thinking ahead. And then, he stopped texting me, and then I yelled at him. And he was like, I can't believe this. Da-da-da-da-da. I double-checked as he sat in front of the camera. It's actually a story about love, and it's one that I both fully enjoy, and is also the source of many years of romantic frustration. He thinks the fact that they met through this bizarre set of circumstances, it's an argument for magic. Well, I don't claim to be an authoritative figure, but for what it's worth, I would like you to look into it, if for no other reason--. He says, before he gets back out there, he wants to do some research. He is an ambitious guy. Next, Bray shows a still image with another mysterious green triangle, just like the ones in the video. No, I feel like I signed up for this, and--. That's more than half. And we just went, oh my god. Can you tell me what you meant by magic, as best as you can describe it? I don't know when I'll be able to write to you again. I know that they are very poisonous. Tobin is a graduate of the Transom Story Workshop, and was selected by the Association of Independents in Radio to be a New Voices Scholar in 2014. But then a couple days later, Ilya popped up on my screen. In that moment, I felt the opposite of love. --which shows an observation in real time. tale about hourly work and spilled milk. Tobin Low (Nancy, This American Life, Radiolab) joins us for a romantic (?) I thought this hearing was good in that we did get some new data out. He's on the West Coast, so it was little before 6:00 AM his time. I need to be as far away from this person as I could possibly get. I kind of wondered, is this what it feels like to go into labor? See? Because that's where the message came from-- a computer programmer working late one night at his office. It sounds like you kind of even enjoyed disagreeing with him. He's very charming. Tobin Low (@tobinlow) / Twitter I'd been thinking of certainty as a kind of guarantee. Laura and Tobin will both begin their new roles with us next week. We both did. I wanted what my parents had, so I followed the advice. Ilya and his family managed to escape all that. He said he wanted to go home because that's where his grandma is. Even so, he insisted on sending me at least one video. I'm not commenting on the accuracy of this. Again-- thisamericanlife.org. Put that one to rest. And this is a neurotoxin venom. So it was not a good breakup then. So the whole dance that happens where you wave down a driver, you get in, and people know what to say to each other--. At the same time, a glowing red orb was observed overhead. We met at a McDonald's in Cleveland that had, like, open windows. Next. And that night, when we were at the rodeo, he leaned over and was like, you know I love you. Ilya's mom and sister finally did make it to Mariupol and surprised the grandparents. Tobin Low (Nancy, This American Life, Radiolab) joins us for a romantic (?) It starts with my mom as a teenager growing up in San Francisco Chinatown. You sit down, and your junk hangles there. I want him to be the kind of person I'd want to call when something funny happens. So black widow spiders, they enjoy dark, low to the ground sort of places. After months of hanging out with Ilya and the other kids, I had to go back to the States. Yeah, I've been dri-- not too long. And her practicality-- it worked. In all the time I was in Poland, I didn't meet anyone else from his city. Producer Valerie Kipnis talked to Ilya about what happened. So we're going to start off the show today with someone who is very much in the math camp, and who finds herself challenged by someone who could not disagree more. Can't have that. Now, Cal's only 11, so having a boyfriend really just means hanging out at school, texting a bunch. This American Life is an American weekly hour-long radio program produced in collaboration with Chicago Public Media and hosted by Ira Glass. And then he'd be like, wait, I thought this was a Lyft? And, yeah, we just knew from that moment on, we're the ones for each other. A little bit to throw off the date, but remember, I was early 20s. She says she tells them that they're not going to have ice cream. It's This American Life. And he said, fine, I'll come to New York and we'll meet at the airport. It was kind of mathy. This went on for weeks. On screen appeared an image of him in his 80s-- with jowls and exaggerated laugh lines, wispy eyebrows. Tobin Low works as a Editor at This American Life, which is a Broadcasting company with an estimated 21 employees; and founded in 2009. And I'm just going to say that the story you're about to tell, you acknowledge the existence of sex, but that's really all that you acknowledge, that it exists. If I can do anything, I want to go on a long walk and have a robust fight with him about everything-- about the politics, the movies-- yes, of course. So yeah. I'm saying you have to, like-- you can't be disheartened by the fact that your numbers are going to look bad. Do you have any comment on the accuracy of that report? He doesn't have time to be scared because he pretty immediately realizes exactly what's happened, why a guy would wave you down and get into your car. --no, I've already been walking, and there's nothing there. As I grew up into an adult who dates, my dad was the one who said, don't worry, you'll figure it out. The series was widely and critically acclaimed, and catalyzed a federal investigation into the industry. Oh, and also, I was like, you must have a good mother, because I don't have a mother, and this is my one chance to fix that. He's saying things like, huh? They are not aliens from other planets come to visit us. Maybe you can see where this is going. Here, Zhenya, the 11-year-old filming him, stopped recording. Ilya actually expected home to be different. Do you remember that show? If I were him, I would have thought, OK, I'm being kidnapped. That's spiderB-Y-T-E-S.org. 791: Math or Magic? | This American Life Episode on Amazon Music Probably, that would be the one moment when I thought that this might be the woman for me. Doctors, lawyers, teachers, and psychiatrists would come in to help on site. And when I asked if he was still nervous about those mines on his walk to school, he said--. He thought it went fine. I know I'm never going to fuck anybody else again, because I'm going to marry that other guy that I just met. And they were all highly educated doctors, lawyers, entrepreneurs. She wrote down exactly what she wanted, and she got it. You know, I can feel it as if it was happening right now. He got in my back seat. No, don't fall in love. One night he walked her to the elevator, and he kissed her. That's the thing about the two camps. Like a really bad Charley horse that doesn't stop and envelops in your whole chest, right?
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